Curse

WinterSnowblind · Dec 01, 2007, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

I still wouldn't have my box for buying EotN in the in-game store only under the premise that doing so was the only way to access the BMP. still /notsigned.

How is that any different from the rest of us completely missing out on content? No matter what they do, a large number of people are going to be unhappy. This is pretty much a no win situation for Anet.

But when it comes down to it, you have something, you don't want others to have. I don't see why it should bother you so much that they put it up on the store in a few months for $10-20. You guys will have still had it much earlier. And bottom line, I think everyone can agree that Guild Wars needs the new content to keep it going.

Str0b0 · Dec 01, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Yep i totally agree. More new content is the same as a collector's edition dance. A new dance would spark more life into this game and prevent a bit of boredom in the same way more content would.

And you totally missed the point of that. The CE's, like the BMP, were limited time offers let me break that down for you with our good friend Mister Freaking Dictionary.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Freaking Dictionary

limited-adj.-confined within limits; restricted or circumscribed.

Hmm seems to me that limited means that it is confined to a certain span of time. That means after said span of time has elapsed it is gone, kaput, no more.

Now I ask you what prevented you from meeting those requirements? No credit or debit card? I must see about a billion commercials on TV advertising pre-paid debit and credit cards. In fact they sell them at my local Walgreens. Live in Europe perhaps where they have a pin based system? Pinpas offers cards and the PlayNC store added the PaySafe option for them. No money? I hardly see how that is Arena Net's problem.That seems to be more of a problem of your employment or budgeting skills. Worried about online fraud? It's called looking for the https before a website, little lock at the bottom that indicates SSL encryption which is safe and an industry standard. My point is you, like everyone else had the same fair chance to get the BMP. You, either because you were too lazy or too inept to find a method to purchase it, did not meet those requirements. I hardly see how Arena Net should be obligated to accommodate your personal problems. If it had been an issue with a malfunction in the store or if they had not made adequate attempts to allow multiple payment options to be used then maybe I could see the point. Whether or not the BMP adds extra playability is not the issue. You could have gotten the content. You made the choice through inaction to deprive yourself of the BMP and now you have to live with that decision.

Dante the Warlord · Dec 01, 2007, 07:56 PM // 19:56

All of you need to chill out. First off, you complaining over here is NOT going to get you anywhere anyways. This is a fan site, nothing more, although Gaile Gray occasionally comes here to view some of our threads. If you actually want to try to get the BMP, go straight to the source!

I admit, its not fair that we get these extravagant skinned weapons. But I doubt ANYONE who bought the BMP knew it would have weapons this nice. Maybe some greens that would only sell for 1-5k, not much.

You were given a very good amount of time to achieve the BMP. 2 months! Plus it was released with GW:EN, which qualified you to buy it. What if you had another few months? given a year? I think you would still be complaining.. True a lot of "loyal" gamers didn't get this. But i think they had the ability to get the BMP and simply procrastinated and was sidetracked to the very end.

To the kids and non credit card holders, who i think this applies mostly to. I sympathize with you. But i remind you i am not a credit-card holder, and i am simply a "kid", 16 to be exact. I got the BMP by working for it. Besides, how did any of you get this in the first place? Either you bought it or your parents bought it. I fail to see how you couldn't just ask them again, or possibly get cash from working for them and give them the cash and let you buy the BMP via credit card. Although it definitely was hard for me, i really wanted this BMP.

I remember a thread before the deadline that talked about how to buy from the online store without a credit card, and i remember seeing someone talking about a type of "giftcard" or something that could transfer value and purchase the BMP successfully.

Even if they do put this out to buy seperately, its probably goign to be via online store, you guys still need the credit card.

My main point? Stop arguing and email anet if enough ppl complain they might be nice enough to give it to you, but don't be suprised if you never get it

Tyla · Dec 01, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

Ive been thinking more and more that the MISSIONS should be available to ALL players.

But access to the weapons should only be to the ones who purchased in time in the promotional period.

This way....the lore, the content, the missions, the fun stuff, the AWESOME CINEMAS is available for all players.

The weapons would then equate into something like the Pre-order weapons. Exclusive to some, but it doesn't take away from the experience of the quests.

But no....dont sell it Anet. Please dont charge for this.

decided to look round for this:P
but this seems more logical - so people who didnt go for the reward gets the missions at least but not the weapons.
the weapons are now the main "mewant" for alot of people,but for those who arent greedy and want the fun of the mission this idea is approved for me

EDIT:but....also to the non-credit card holders who are classed as a child...you can get bank cards that dont tax you in certain banks and that is how i got my BMP.

WinterSnowblind · Dec 01, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

And you totally missed the point of that. The CE's, like the BMP, were limited time offers let me break that down for you with our good friend Mister Freaking Dictionary.

Comparing a special dance, to brand new missions, is very different. The emotes are there as something a little special for those that paid more for the game. It has little to no effect on those that don't have it, and if they gave it away to everyone, it would be very pointless.

But missions, and new weapon skills are completely different, and considering how hard they clearly worked on this new stuff, I'd find it very hard to believe they won't give it away again in another form. Just because it WAS giving away in a limited promotion, doesn't mean the same thing can't be giving away again in another way.

~ Dan ~ · Dec 01, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

And you totally missed the point of that. The CE's, like the BMP, were limited time offers let me break that down for you with our good friend Mister Freaking Dictionary.

No need to get silly. My point is that the CE limited offer was a shitty frigging DANCE. Not a whole load of new content. Geez...

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the weapons are now the main "mewant" for alot of people,but for those who arent greedy and want the fun of the mission this idea is approved for me

Although just 2 minutes ago you were classifying all the people without the BMP as only wanting weapon skins. *sigh*

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

They declined to do so and now that they see the new skins they cry.

Another who fails to look at the thread date. Good job.

Stockholm · Dec 01, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

Do you live with the premise that everyone is from the USA?

No, but you can get a MASTER CARD from PAYPAL if you really really can't get one from anywhere else, and don't tell me you live somewhere where you can't get PAYPAL.

Str0b0 · Dec 01, 2007, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

Comparing a special dance, to brand new missions, is very different. The emotes are there as something a little special for those that paid more for the game. It has little to no effect on those that don't have it, and if they gave it away to everyone, it would be very pointless.

But missions, and new weapon skills are completely different, and considering how hard they clearly worked on this new stuff, I'd find it very hard to believe they won't give it away again in another form. Just because it WAS giving away in a limited promotion, doesn't mean the same thing can't be giving away again in another way.

No but it sets an unfortunate precedent if they do. The bottom line is everyone ,regardless of age, or geographical location, had the same opportunity to qualify for the BMP if they wanted it so badly. They declined to do so and now that they see the new skins they cry. In fact I would wager if I go far enough back into the threads some of these same people that that are whining now were probably talking about how lame the BMP would be and that they wouldn't be buying it. Arena Net should not cater to the faults of their consumers.

Loviatar · Dec 01, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by Ember010

Pretty Certain. I'm from Europe and when EotN went live at Midnight? Pacific time? It was 8am My time, so I'm pretty sure it appeared later in the day or a day or so later. And I'm with you, I don't go looking for the promotions which is why I bought EotN in a store.

it was all over the place including right here . and many more steadly after this

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07-21-2007, 11:04 PM #12
Gaile Gray
ArenaNet
Join Date: Feb 2005

We are just now finalizing (or finalising for some ) details about how we can accommodate purchases made in either the in-game or PlayNC stores, so as to give credit for the purchase of the GW:EN Prerelease Bonus Pack and the game, as well. Or actually, any purchase past the required amount spent (in dollars, pounds, or euros), so that players can acquire the Bonus Mission Pack.

CHunterX · Dec 01, 2007, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

How is that any different from the rest of us completely missing out on content? No matter what they do, a large number of people are going to be unhappy. This is pretty much a no win situation for Anet.

But when it comes down to it, you have something, you don't want others to have. I don't see why it should bother you so much that they put it up on the store in a few months for $10-20. You guys will have still had it much earlier. And bottom line, I think everyone can agree that Guild Wars needs the new content to keep it going.

I don't "have something I don't want others to have." I have something I traded my box, discs, and booklets for. I'd be 100% fine with the sale of the BMP in the in-game store, if it meant I got my box. Why should I be screwed out of the box? Because I actually listened to the promotion? What kind of image would that give Areanet? "Please qualify for our promotions, but if you do, be prepared to lose physical items while everyone else will have access to the same thing a week later!"
And having it earlier is meaningless, items were non-tradable.

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Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

You were given a very good amount of time to achieve the BMP. 2 months! Plus it was released with GW:EN, which qualified you to buy it. What if you had another few months? given a year? I think you would still be complaining..

Actually it was four months, but I'm splitting hairs, apparently.

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

No need to get silly. My point is that the CE limited offer was a shitty frigging DANCE. Not a whole load of new content. Geez...

Preorders came with content: Weapons. And yet you don't see players asking for those again.

Str0b0 · Dec 01, 2007, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

No need to get silly. My point is that the CE limited offer was a shitty frigging DANCE. Not a whole load of new content. Geez...

My point stands though that if you wanted it so badly you had the opportunity to get it while the offer was valid. You declined. Why should Arena Net have to cater to your bad decision?

Tyla · Dec 01, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Although just 2 minutes ago you were classifying all the people without the BMP as only wanting weapon skins. *sigh*

not everyone...
some people dont go greed,you know that?
people are different.

WinterSnowblind · Dec 01, 2007, 08:10 PM // 20:10

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

No but it sets an unfortunate precedent if they do. The bottom line is everyone ,regardless of age, or geographical location, had the same opportunity to qualify for the BMP if they wanted it so badly. They declined to do so and now that they see the new skins they cry. In fact I would wager if I go far enough back into the threads some of these same people that that are whining now were probably talking about how lame the BMP would be and that they wouldn't be buying it. Arena Net should not cater to the faults of their consumers.

As has been very evident, even before the mission pack was announced, this is not true. Many people in certain countries have had no way to qualify for the BMP.

And again, I don't see why it's such a big deal. Many people didn't want to bother getting the bonus mission pack, because they did a poor job explaining what we would be getting. Yes, you can throw out the argument "your loss", but I was unwilling to buy three worthless character slots for content that could have very likely been bad. Does that make me stupid, for not wanting to take the risk? And equally, if Anet do decide to make the content available in some other way thats YOUR LOSS. You chose to get the content then, and that way. I chose to wait and see if they'll run it again, when I know what I'm getting.

Kthnx.

CHunterX · Dec 01, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

As has been very evident, even before the mission pack was announced, this is not true. Many people in certain countries have had no way to qualify for the BMP.

Where isn't Paypal accessible? China perhaps... but I'd like some countries names, please.

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

And equally, if Anet do decide to make the content available in some other way thats YOUR LOSS. You chose to get the content then, and that way. I chose to wait and see if they'll run it again, when I know what I'm getting.

Kthnx.

Why the hell should I suffer a loss for qualifying for a promotion? Fail logic is fail.

~ Dan ~ · Dec 01, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

My point stands though that if you wanted it so badly you had the opportunity to get it while the offer was valid. You declined. Why should Arena Net have to cater to your bad decision?

My statement stands that i failed to realise buying GW:EN qualified me for a one-time opportunity to get brand new content. Whether i was stupid or not is irrelevant. I didn't notice there was just one way to get the BMP. So it's not like i optionally declined the offer.

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

not everyone...
some people dont go greed,you know that?
people are different.

But yet whilst replying to me you refused to read this:

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

I'm in that 2%. I want to play it for reasons other than some new sexy skins.

and just crapped on with your own view that everyone wanted new weapon skins.

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Where isn't Paypal accessible? China perhaps... but I'd like some countries names, please.

Paypal was not an option of payment for the BMP.

Str0b0 · Dec 01, 2007, 08:14 PM // 20:14

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

As has been very evident, even before the mission pack was announced, this is not true. Many people in certain countries have had no way to qualify for the BMP.

Oh really? and what countries were those might I ask? Please enlighten me.

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

My statement stands that i failed to realise buying GW:EN qualified me for a one-time opportunity to get brand new content. Whether i was stupid or not is irrelevant. I didn't notice there was just one way to get the BMP. So it's not like i optionally declined the offer.

No whether you were stupid or not is entirely relevant to the discussion at hand. What you want is for Arena Net to make up for your oversight. The key word is your. A company is under no obligation and indeed should not make up for you mistakes. It sets a precedent for corporate baby sitting that is a fast road to a bad time.

CHunterX · Dec 01, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

Paypal was not an option of payment for the BMP.

READ, for once:

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Originally Posted by Stockholm

No, but you can get a MASTER CARD from PAYPAL if you really really can't get one from anywhere else, and don't tell me you live somewhere where you can't get PAYPAL.

SERIOUSLY, I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT COUNTRIES CAN'T ACCESS PAYPAL. ENLIGHTEN ME.

Tyla · Dec 01, 2007, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

and just crapped on with your own view that everyone wanted new weapon skins.

A:maybe i did - maybe i just couldn't be bothered at first to search for lyra's post searching through 40 pages because at first i thought it would be absolutely useless posts?
being lazy and idol is kinda ftw when things in RL swing your way

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

My statement stands that i failed to realise buying GW:EN qualified me for a one-time opportunity to get brand new content. Whether i was stupid or not is irrelevant. I didn't notice there was just one way to get the BMP. So it's not like i optionally declined the offer.

also - i though you said you didnt have access to the online store anyway and wont trust it to start.

WinterSnowblind · Dec 01, 2007, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Where isn't Paypal accessible? China perhaps... but I'd like some countries names, please.

Go back and read some of those topics, I know many people were unable to purchase anything from the story. But I myself am not one of them, and personally never paid much attention to those topics.

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

Why the hell should I suffer a loss for qualifying for a promotion? Fail logic is fail.

So you agree with me. You're suffering because other people would be able to enjoy your content? As has been pointed out, Gaile has made it clear that it's undecided weather this content would eventually be released in some other way. I chose to wait. You didn't. As I pointed out earlier, I'm not overly fussed if I get this content or not, but it would be nice. And I don't see why those of us who didn't get it first, should completely miss out.

~ Dan ~ · Dec 01, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

Oh really? and what countries were those might I ask? Please enlighten me.

Take a look at this
A non-european / american player didn't even get to access the BMP he's qualified for. Mistake on anet's part or not, i believe there would be some countries who didn't have the chance to buy it.

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Originally Posted by CHunterX

SERIOUSLY, I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT COUNTRIES CAN'T ACCESS PAYPAL. ENLIGHTEN ME.

YES BECAUSE CLEARLY EVERY RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOER ON THIS PLANET KNEW THEY COULD GET THIS PAYPAL MASTER CARD!

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

What you want is for Arena Net to make up for your oversight.

No actually. Anet just wants to bang on with GW2 and forget about this game. They then turn round and decide to make some new content. And.. omigosh, they put effort into it!

But it's too much to ask to make this content available to everyone for whatever reason?